Engineers, Microsoft Agree
On Use of MCSE Designation
Microsoft Corp. will advise Canadian holders of its MCSE certification
not to call themselves engineers or use the full title Microsoft Certified
System Engineers, news releases announced earlier this month. The engineering
profession and Microsoft have reached an agreement on the use of the designation,
after compliance efforts were initiated more than a year ago by APEGGA's
APEGGA President Dale Miller, P.Eng., said: "This agreement shows
that difficult problems can be overcome when meaningful discussion is
held with a view to finding a mutually acceptable resolution. It will
go a long way toward bringing the engineering profession and the information
technology industry closer together and working in the interests of public
safety. I congratulate Microsoft and all those involved in the negotiations
for their insight into this problem and their wise approach to finding
Meetings were held last year with the appropriate Alberta institutions
-- those that offer the training in computer science that qualifies graduates
to write the Microsoft exam, which then leads to the MCSE designation.
Attendees were told that the full title of the designation is a violation
of provincial legislation, which reserves the use of the terms "engineer"
and "engineering" to persons licensed by APEGGA.
That got the attention of Microsoft, and discussions at the national level
led to a delegation of provincial association and CCPE representatives
meeting with Microsoft in October. This resulted in the solution announced
by Microsoft and CCPE.
Microsoft's decision should prevent Canadian holders of the MCSE certification
from inadvertently breaking provincial and territorial laws, which protect
the public by restricting the use of the titles and the practice of engineering
in Canada to licensed professional engineers. It should also ensure that
the engineering profession's licensing bodies will not be required to
take enforcement action against MCSE holders.
"We are very pleased by Microsoft's decision," said Marie Lemay,
P.Eng., CEO of the CCPE. "Microsoft has demonstrated corporate leadership
by acting in the best interest of the MCSE community. . .Its decision
is good for the information technology industry, good for MCSE holders,
and good for the engineering profession."
Representatives of CCPE and several provincial associations met with Microsoft
in Seattle late last year to explain the legal issues surrounding the
use of the title "engineer" in Canada, and to ask the corporation
to stop referring to holders of the MCSE credential as engineers.
"We are very pleased to have reached an agreement with the engineering
profession and to support it," said Anne Marie McSweeney, the acting
director of Microsoft Certification and Skills Assessment. "It opens
the door for closer cooperation among all organizations in the information
technology industry and the engineering profession in Canada. As the Microsoft
credentials continue to evolve, it is our goal to ensure they maintain
the highest level of relevance to the industry and represent leaders in
Microsoft is currently researching alternatives for the MCSE credential
worldwide, which could result in a new name for the credential later this